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Post Farkel Lesson
on: February 26, 2012, 02:29

Farkel - Here is your lesson! Just three things to work on - for now. ;)

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If you watch the video, you are setting your feet before you twist. What you want to do is keep your feet together, bend over from the hips, and then make your torso twist. Doing it the way you are, you don't really get the torso twist and the loading the twist will do for you. You are sliding your hips toward the target - see the red lines- you don't want to do that. Lower body stays between the red lines, with feet together as you make the torso twist.

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At the top of swing, your right shoulder has raised to almost level with the left, compare the blue and then the yellow line. This is due to your strong pull of your trail arm trying to complete the backswing in the traditional way. For MGS the right shoulder should stay below the left and at TOS should not be visible - it should be blocked out by the steep rise of the left arm up the chest wall.

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You can see this right elbow fold in this last pic. You are making a big curl of the right bicep and pulling back like in a classic swing. Your trail arm is too pulled in, and tense...what Kiran would call being too "narrow" at the top. At TOS your right elbow has too much fold, and it is pointing out away from you. To make a good swing will require you to do some re-routing. For MGS you want your elbow to be pointing down like to a spot just in front of or even more toward the ball target line - the blue line.

So there ya go my main main farkle...try those things and see if that makes a difference in your contact.

farkle
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Post Re: Farkel Lesson
on: February 26, 2012, 10:32

Thank you, Kevin! And thanks to Kiran as well for engineering this wonderfully simple swing. I will get on this as time allows and see if can't correct my form and become more compliant with the shape Kiran wants us in. It looks doable, will try to find it in the mirror and take it outside when the weather breaks. Great lesson!

Best,
Kurt

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Post Re: Farkel Lesson
on: February 28, 2012, 19:30

With a day to work on this lesson and more review of the book and primer I had a go of it yesterday at the local course. I'm not ready for prime time by any means but curiosity and cabin fever were setting in.

Sacto83's review was a lot of help too, and a couple of points he made helped me with the lesson and allowed me to peck my way around the course without to much damage. Learned a few things and had fun doing it, it was a nice break.

Started with Kevin's instruction on the torso by keeping my feet together as instructed and tried to follow his setup step by step. Need to keep ingraining this, it's sinking in and becoming comfortable.

Arms closer together at setup. Found in the mirror that in order to get my trail elbow to point down I need get the slack out at address and bring my elbows closer together. Need to work on this and get a good feel for it.

A smooth tempo and holding your positions during the DS is essential. Yes it is. :) Hit some real nice shots when I behaved...blocks and hooks when I didn't. Still, I was encouraged and pain free when done. This will fly, just need to keep practicing with the mirror and hit a few into the net now and then and be patient.

Thanks for the help,
Kurt

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Post Re: Farkel Lesson
on: February 29, 2012, 08:25

Good report Farkle! Pain free is good...and at least you are able to play! I'm still in the garage! :(

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Post Farkel Lesson Follow up - DL View
on: March 3, 2012, 03:00

Me main mahn Farks! :P
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Nice adjustments, proving how easy MGS is to get. Here ya go. Look at this address change, Notice how you can see more of your chest, indicating a better twist/set. And also see how much further back your right shoulder is as indicated by the red line drawn from the rear of your shoulder. That's a much better starting position.
Image

Next, Look your Top of Swing position. Your arms are closer together - right elbow down more! YES., and your trail shoulder is more level. Also notice your left arm has "hit you in the face" as Kiran is fond of saying. Club shaft is in an improved position too. Good student! :)
Image

Finally, look at impact and you can see there is less over the top - easy to see the right shoulder has stayed back more, in fact it is almost where it was at address. :) Notice that the ball is starting our much more to the right compared to your over the top impact position where the ball is already inside the target line. Cool, very cool 8-)

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Post Farkel Lesson Follow up - FO View #1
on: March 3, 2012, 03:16

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No need for red lines here! Eliminated the slide toward the target and a much better twist.

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Going to the top you don't raise up as much, indicating a much better "minimalist approach". As you will see, if you don't raise up, you don't need to come back down. Makes for more consistency and solid contact.

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Post Farkel Lesson Follow up - FO View #2
on: March 3, 2012, 03:22

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Here you can see Newtons Law in your old swing. You are raising up a lot, and notice all the rotation. This is definitely not minimal!

Image

After the adjustments, note how level and stable you stay throughout your swing. less up and down and less rotation. This makes for VERY consistent contact!

And you will have to tell us which you like better...the lotsa movement or the minimal approach.... ;)

farkle
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Posts: 9
Post Re: Farkel Lesson
on: March 3, 2012, 10:46

Thanks again, Kevin. I would be lost without your help, this discussion forum and Kiran's advice on using a mirror...a lot of mirror to get started. Gleaned another item from the Review Part II...lead elbow pointed parallel to the target line. That really seems to help me at this point to get the club up without turning my shoulders back. I'm really starting to believe in the minimal approach as I'm slowly adapting to it. Having a lot of fun trying to improve and the contact is starting to get pretty solid. Great instruction! kfarkle

farkle
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Post Re: Farkel Lesson
on: March 27, 2012, 16:43

Played good golf yesterday, only my second round since starting this instruction. Doubt if my MGS form is much improved from this lesson, but I have gained feel and tempo from weeks of practice. Think I was able to hold my preset fairly well and made solid contact most of the round. Beautiful sunny day, just felt relaxed and peaceful the whole round and didn't grind over every shot and setup. Really felt the effortless potential of this approach and picked up my club distances right away. No sore back or hip, now I understand the excitement about MGS. It suits my recreational level of play very well. Thanks again to everyone here for all the input, it's been a tremendous help. kfarkle

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Post Re: Farkel Lesson
on: March 27, 2012, 20:29

Great news Farks! To play pain free becomes increasingly important as we mature....if yoj play well and enjoy it, even better!

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Post Farkel Lesson
on: February 26, 2012, 02:29

Farkel - Here is your lesson! Just three things to work on - for now. ;)

Image

If you watch the video, you are setting your feet before you twist. What you want to do is keep your feet together, bend over from the hips, and then make your torso twist. Doing it the way you are, you don't really get the torso twist and the loading the twist will do for you. You are sliding your hips toward the target - see the red lines- you don't want to do that. Lower body stays between the red lines, with feet together as you make the torso twist.

Image

At the top of swing, your right shoulder has raised to almost level with the left, compare the blue and then the yellow line. This is due to your strong pull of your trail arm trying to complete the backswing in the traditional way. For MGS the right shoulder should stay below the left and at TOS should not be visible - it should be blocked out by the steep rise of the left arm up the chest wall.

Image

You can see this right elbow fold in this last pic. You are making a big curl of the right bicep and pulling back like in a classic swing. Your trail arm is too pulled in, and tense...what Kiran would call being too "narrow" at the top. At TOS your right elbow has too much fold, and it is pointing out away from you. To make a good swing will require you to do some re-routing. For MGS you want your elbow to be pointing down like to a spot just in front of or even more toward the ball target line - the blue line.

So there ya go my main main farkle...try those things and see if that makes a difference in your contact.

farkle
Newbie
Posts: 9
Post Re: Farkel Lesson
on: February 26, 2012, 10:32

Thank you, Kevin! And thanks to Kiran as well for engineering this wonderfully simple swing. I will get on this as time allows and see if can't correct my form and become more compliant with the shape Kiran wants us in. It looks doable, will try to find it in the mirror and take it outside when the weather breaks. Great lesson!

Best,
Kurt

farkle
Newbie
Posts: 9
Post Re: Farkel Lesson
on: February 28, 2012, 19:30

With a day to work on this lesson and more review of the book and primer I had a go of it yesterday at the local course. I'm not ready for prime time by any means but curiosity and cabin fever were setting in.

Sacto83's review was a lot of help too, and a couple of points he made helped me with the lesson and allowed me to peck my way around the course without to much damage. Learned a few things and had fun doing it, it was a nice break.

Started with Kevin's instruction on the torso by keeping my feet together as instructed and tried to follow his setup step by step. Need to keep ingraining this, it's sinking in and becoming comfortable.

Arms closer together at setup. Found in the mirror that in order to get my trail elbow to point down I need get the slack out at address and bring my elbows closer together. Need to work on this and get a good feel for it.

A smooth tempo and holding your positions during the DS is essential. Yes it is. :) Hit some real nice shots when I behaved...blocks and hooks when I didn't. Still, I was encouraged and pain free when done. This will fly, just need to keep practicing with the mirror and hit a few into the net now and then and be patient.

Thanks for the help,
Kurt

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Posts: 191
Post Re: Farkel Lesson
on: February 29, 2012, 08:25

Good report Farkle! Pain free is good...and at least you are able to play! I'm still in the garage! :(

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Posts: 191
Post Farkel Lesson Follow up - DL View
on: March 3, 2012, 03:00

Me main mahn Farks! :P
Image
Nice adjustments, proving how easy MGS is to get. Here ya go. Look at this address change, Notice how you can see more of your chest, indicating a better twist/set. And also see how much further back your right shoulder is as indicated by the red line drawn from the rear of your shoulder. That's a much better starting position.
Image

Next, Look your Top of Swing position. Your arms are closer together - right elbow down more! YES., and your trail shoulder is more level. Also notice your left arm has "hit you in the face" as Kiran is fond of saying. Club shaft is in an improved position too. Good student! :)
Image

Finally, look at impact and you can see there is less over the top - easy to see the right shoulder has stayed back more, in fact it is almost where it was at address. :) Notice that the ball is starting our much more to the right compared to your over the top impact position where the ball is already inside the target line. Cool, very cool 8-)

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Posts: 191
Post Farkel Lesson Follow up - FO View #1
on: March 3, 2012, 03:16

Image
No need for red lines here! Eliminated the slide toward the target and a much better twist.

Image
Going to the top you don't raise up as much, indicating a much better "minimalist approach". As you will see, if you don't raise up, you don't need to come back down. Makes for more consistency and solid contact.

Guest
Pro
Posts: 191
Post Farkel Lesson Follow up - FO View #2
on: March 3, 2012, 03:22

Image

Here you can see Newtons Law in your old swing. You are raising up a lot, and notice all the rotation. This is definitely not minimal!

Image

After the adjustments, note how level and stable you stay throughout your swing. less up and down and less rotation. This makes for VERY consistent contact!

And you will have to tell us which you like better...the lotsa movement or the minimal approach.... ;)

farkle
Newbie
Posts: 9
Post Re: Farkel Lesson
on: March 3, 2012, 10:46

Thanks again, Kevin. I would be lost without your help, this discussion forum and Kiran's advice on using a mirror...a lot of mirror to get started. Gleaned another item from the Review Part II...lead elbow pointed parallel to the target line. That really seems to help me at this point to get the club up without turning my shoulders back. I'm really starting to believe in the minimal approach as I'm slowly adapting to it. Having a lot of fun trying to improve and the contact is starting to get pretty solid. Great instruction! kfarkle

farkle
Newbie
Posts: 9
Post Re: Farkel Lesson
on: March 27, 2012, 16:43

Played good golf yesterday, only my second round since starting this instruction. Doubt if my MGS form is much improved from this lesson, but I have gained feel and tempo from weeks of practice. Think I was able to hold my preset fairly well and made solid contact most of the round. Beautiful sunny day, just felt relaxed and peaceful the whole round and didn't grind over every shot and setup. Really felt the effortless potential of this approach and picked up my club distances right away. No sore back or hip, now I understand the excitement about MGS. It suits my recreational level of play very well. Thanks again to everyone here for all the input, it's been a tremendous help. kfarkle

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Posts: 191
Post Re: Farkel Lesson
on: March 27, 2012, 20:29

Great news Farks! To play pain free becomes increasingly important as we mature....if yoj play well and enjoy it, even better!

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