Quote from willyinnv on March 6, 2012, 18:41
Whatta Challenge! Bill aka 'willyinnv'
Bill, once you get it set right, you will see it is not quite the challenge you imagine. MGS sets everything up for a good swing. Your waggle is pulling your right shoulder forward before you begin your back swing, taking you out of your MGS twist. And because your use your SA alignment with your hands higher, you must reach forward and up, which brings your right shoulder back toward the target line. I don't want to give you too much, because you are a lot closer than you think.
If you insist on keeping your trail arm and shaft in line, try making your twist, keeping it there, and let the club shaft stay in a straight line with your lead arm. This will have your club head set behind the ball some more ala Moe...which is okay IF you keep your torso twist.
When swinging to the top, try to feel as if your lead arm and club maintain this straight relationship all the way to the top of the swing. Resist the urge to pull back and around with the trail arm...instead just keep it relaxed and "along for the ride". Your trail arm you should feel like it only has a bend of "around" 130 degrees. Yours bends too much.
A lot of MGS is counter intuitive to what we think should work. This is because of years of playing a certain way, and all the "teaching" we have been exposed too. In your case ( mine too ), years of swinging with the shaft in line with the trail arm has you pre-conditioned against a more natural arm swing.
Try bending more from the hips, and letting your arms hang more free. Take your MGS set without a club and bend over so that as your lead arm hangs there, it is no farther away from your zipper than about 6 inches - about the distance from your pinkie finger to your thumb when your fingers are fully extended. Now, keeping the forward bend and the torso twist, just swing your arm up and down, take it as high as you can, and then just swing it back down...notice how effort less the swing of the arm is, and notice also the path the arm takes. BECAUSE YOUR LEAD ARM IS THE RADIUS OF THE SWING, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE TRAIL ARM IS SA ALIGNED OR NOT!
Now, take your normal SA aligned stance and grip with a club. Then drop the club and swing your lead arm again up and down and feel the difference, again noting the path your lead arm takes. Which one seems more natural and gives a freer swing of the arms? Be honest.
You see, you have followed my posts for years on the other forum. You know I held in low esteem any golf action that involved an arms swing. I was a lower body starts the swing first, the arms are "passive" and a body swinger advocate.
But with a a proper MGS set up, you still have the body involved, but with a lot less wasted motion. The body is set in place so that the big muscles still provide power, but they are able to do it in more harmony with the arms swing. When you do MGS correctly, you can swing your arms all you want and they won't get out of sync with your body, because your body is already synched - all that's left is for the arms to swing.
I wish I had the bio-mechanics proficiency to explain the above, but we will just have to wait for Sacto, or Kiran to chime in. But to give you a peek behind the curtain, notice what you feel in your lower body as you make your MGS twist - what parts get tighter, where is your wiehgt going, where do you feel stretches? MGS loads you up without you having to make the big wind of classic golf, or the "leverage position" Graves talks about. Because you are already there - all that's left is to swing the arms!